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Overview
Suno v4.5 brings notable upgrades in speed, genre handling, and prompt control, but user feedback and technical reviews indicate ongoing challenges with melody separation, muddiness, and frequency masking.
Common Issues Identified
1. Lack of Instrument Separation (Frequency Masking)
- Stems Don’t Perfectly Isolate: When using Suno v4.5’s stem separation feature, the resulting stems often don’t align perfectly with the original mix, leaving some elements blended between stems. This can make it difficult to isolate or enhance individual instruments, contributing to frequency masking and less definition between parts.
- Traditional Separation Algorithms: Suno appears to generate music as a composite stereo mix and then applies additional stem separation algorithms (similar to SpectraLayers). Unlike having true multi-track access, this can lead to artifacts and reduces clarity, particularly for instruments occupying similar frequency ranges.
2. Muddy or Over-Processed Sound
- Low-End Build-Up: Some productions using v4.5 are reported as having a muddy low end or “washed out” feel, especially in busy arrangements. This is often attributed to over-compression, excessive reverb, or inadequate separation in the initial mix, leading to masking and a lack of clarity between bass, drums, and melodic elements.
- User Reports: Artists and producers note that, in more complex or dense arrangements, Suno v4.5 struggles to maintain transparency between elements. This results in the “muddiness” where melodic lines and rhythmics are less clear compared to professional, human-made mixes.
3. Prompt Length and Detail
- Prompt Control Upgraded, But Results May Vary: While v4.5 allows for much more descriptive “style of music” prompts (up to ~1000 characters), simplistic or vague prompts often yield generic, bland, or congested tracks with poor separation. Users are encouraged to be very explicit and detailed in describing the desired sound, arrangement, and instrument balance for best results.
Technical Causes
| Problem | Description | Root Issue |
|---|---|---|
| Muddy Low End | Bass and kick frequencies blend or overpower each other | Overcompression, excess reverb, masking |
| Poor Melody Separation | Lead vocals, synths, or guitars fail to stand out from backing elements | Inadequate algorithmic stem separation, busy mix |
| Frequency Masking | Instruments in similar ranges mask each other, reducing overall clarity | Lack of true multi-track generation, buildup in mix |
Tips and Workarounds
- Enhance Prompts: Specify instrument roles, desired mix clarity, and arrangement (e.g., “clear piano melody with punchy, separate drums and a dry vocal upfront”) to improve separation.
- Post-Processing: Use advanced mastering suites (Izotope Ozone, CloudBounce, Diktatorial Suite) to clean up muddy mixes. Audio restoration tools (Izotope RX, Unchirp) can further reduce masking and digital artifacts.
- Stem Editing: Export stems from Suno and manually adjust EQ, compression, and volume for each in a DAW. This gives you more granular control than working with the mix as a stereo file.
- Sectional Arrangement: Break your song into sections (verse, chorus, bridge) and generate each separately. This can avoid cumulative “AI muddiness” and lets you manually blend sections for better consistency.
- Remaster Using Lower Versions: Some users remaster tracks with v4.5 and then apply v4 (or earlier) processing to regain clarity, particularly for vocals or key melodic lines.
- Accept Limitations: For now, certain complex genres or intricate, densely arranged sections may not reach professional separation and clarity with Suno v4.5 alone—external audio editing remains necessary for critical listening environments.
Summary Table: Problems & Solutions
| Issue | Symptom | Solution |
|---|---|---|
| Muddy Mix | Blending of elements, loss of clarity | EQ, post-processing, detailed prompts |
| Frequency Masking | Overlapping, indistinct instrument timbres | Manual stem editing, genre simplification |
| Melody Not Standing Out | Lead melody lost or unclear in mix | Stronger prompts, vocal double-tracking, manual mix adjustment |
Community Observations
- Many creators report that doubling Suno generations (layering alternate takes) and careful blending in a DAW can thicken vocals or separate melodies without amplifying issues.
- For lo-fi, ambient, or simpler arrangements, Suno v4.5’s limitations are less noticeable and may even impart a character that suits the genre.
Final Thoughts
Suno v4.5 delivers significant improvements in flexibility and genre coverage, but melody separation, muddiness, and masking persist, especially in complex arrangements. To get professional results, combine detailed prompts with manual post-production and stem editing for best clarity and mix balance.
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